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To Clear a Few Things up
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[info]yuki_onna

I've started to get emails telling me that Fairyland and related activity were a bad idea, that I ought to get a real/day job instead, that I shouldn't have been on tour if things were this bad, or planning a wedding, that this is not grown-up behavior.

I don't want to spend a lot of time defending what seemed like the best thing to do, to me. But I knew this criticism would come up eventually, so I do want to address it before much more time passes.

First of all, the tour cost us very little, ultimately. And was all predicated on the idea that there was a job with a local company waiting when we got home--he worked a bit for them on the road and it was understood. Surprise, the job wasn't waiting. The tour was a couch-surfing venture, with no venues that were paid anything but a cut of the door, and tips and book sales paid for our gas and dinner most nights. People were kind and generous and took us in and fed us, and the whole tour cost us no more than living at home for seven weeks would have. This was not some lavish venture, and frankly without the infrastructure[info]s00j has set up around the country, we never could or would have done it.

Second, "real" jobs are not exactly thick on the ground these days. We did a lot of calculations, and the fact is I did fuck up--by getting a classics degree seven years ago. And dropping out of grad school six years ago. The jobs I'm qualified for without going back to school are just about Starbucks barista (which I can't even do because I have been fired from the Bux in the past.) And the fact is, I make barista money as a freelancer. So I could spend $100 a week to get back and forth from the island and make what is not at all enough money to keep our bills paid and lose all the time and energy I give to my freelancing, and not make any more money than I do now. That didn't seem like a wise solution.

I don't know about the wedding. I'm hoping a job happens before I have to make a decision I don't want to make. The big savings account I had for it dwindled a long time ago. But A. it was always a very frugal wedding and B. I haven't paid anything for it yet beyond reserving the location a year ago. It's all on hold. The only thing the donated money is being spent on is rent, bills, and food. It is sacred money of the highest order and we're not spending it on a wedding or anything else but what we really need. The very basics. The rest...we'll just have to figure it out as it goes.

We waited until we were on our last dimes to do this. I've done my very best not to ask for charity, but to offer real work for real money, which is a fairly common transaction. I'm sorry if this offended some of you--I'm very aware that I'm awfully lucky to be able to do this, that many people don't have the option. It was a hard decision to do it. But I've never judged anyone who reached out for online help and donated everything I could when I had it to give. I will always do that.

If you've had internal WTFs about this whole thing, I can only say: then just don't read the book on Monday. I'm not the first one to offer fiction for donations and I won't be the last. Cyberfunded art is still work, and we all do what we think is best.

Thanks, guys. I love you all, and I hope this has cleared things up a little.

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My response would have been more succinct: "Eat a dick, assholes."

I'd suggest the bag of dicks. (Bless you, Hamlet 2!)

Had Cat been exfoliating with caviar, THEN there'd be an issue. But c'mon. I saw her tour. It wasn't a high-tech, high-cost thing.

Thank you for being in Cat's corner. (And if I sound like my second paragrapgh was addressed at you, not the haters, then I apologize. I'm not sure how clear my writing is right now.)

Wow, the nerve of some people.

Seriously.

I think what you are doing is awesome and creative and wonderful, and really? All of those people who are saying stuff like that? Not okay.

Gah.

*pissed off*

I know you to be an honorable woman, and I think you are amazing. It angers me so very much that people would criticize you for trying to make a living with your work. Because, you know, that is ultimately what you are doing.

Sisters and shipmates, my dear. Sisters and shipmates.

It angers me so very much that people would criticize you for trying to make a living with your work. Because, you know, that is ultimately what you are doing.

THIS. ♥

Well, feel free to spend any money I pay you on the wedding! :P I hardly think it's your fault that the distribution of wealth in this country is, uh, not-quite-fair (especially at the moment).

Hugs, hon.

Ignore the naysayers.

If we can't come together to help out our own, and support the very art which makes them one of us to begin with, we wouldn't be much of a community.

Everytime someone tells a writer to get a "real" job, an angel gets mugged and its body parts sold at the Goblin Market.

Here's looking forward to Fairyland. Let that be your thumb-in-the-nose to people who say you should be toiling at McDonalds for minimum wage instead of writing for donations. :>

Hmm, angel parts available at the goblin market, just for telling writers to get a real job. I wonder what angel gallbladders are good for.

You helped me when I needed it, I helped you when you needed it, and I have no doubt that it might all come round again. And if people have never used the guest-friend relationship to get across the country, well, they're missing out.

Writing IS work.

If people don't like what you're doing for work, people should just not donate (I'm planning to after I get paid on Monday). But they should not send you parsimonious emails telling you how to run your life.

I'll say it again: Writing IS work. To say it isn't is deeply insulting to those of us who do it for a living.

"Writing IS work. To say it isn't is deeply insulting to those of us who do it for a living."

Damn right. (Says one who does it for about 1/3 - 1/2 of a living.)

Given the outpouring of love and support I've seen, it seems to me that this was both a *good* idea and a far more effective one than going on a six-month resume-mailing spree.

For what it's worth I bought Palimpsest, and both books of The Orphans tales last week. IT happened to be the same day I found out that I'm being furloughed for 9 of the next 12 weeks. They are sitting on top of my to be read pile next to my bed right now. Books are important after all as are friends of [info]s00j, After all I can skip a meal or two if I have to.

Ack, I don't want you to skip a meal! :(

the fact is I did fuck up--by getting a classics degree seven years ago OH HEY THAT'S ME! Only I got it three years ago, and I've not been able to get a real job since then. I'm looking at going into grad school.

How is this not a real job? You're producing work and getting paid for it. That's all a job is.

Nice. As it happens, I'm glad you reached out, and I'm glad you're getting help, and I'm glad you're getting by in a way that still allows you to create your art. The world is a better place for it. My only regret is that I didn't find your Omikuji project soon enough - I just signed up today, and I regret that I won't be able to read those first stories.

So cheers, and good for you!

You can get the back issues as PDFs, if you like. They're $2 each.

Don't bother explaining yourself to these people. The times are to blame, not you. The truly irresponsible people are the Wall Street jerks who got all of us into this mess and who will never be held accountable. You on the other hand had the guts to take what at the time seemed like a sensible move towards your dream. And doesn't an adult try to take his or her future into their own hands rather than wait for permission?

And you don't need a job. You need a living.

Just put the writing behind a cut so they don't get to read it unless they click on it.

Also, I'm pretty sure this is exactly how commerce works: you provide a good or service in exchange for other goods,services, or monies. Don't let them get to you.

For. Serious. I get that people maybe feel like no one will love them anymore if they don't contribute to this, but Cat does actually know what capitalism is, and knows that if they don't like her work and don't want to pay for it, they won't. The attitude some people have about people putting up work and telling them to pay what they like just baffles me. Don't like it, don't pay, no biggy.

You don't know me, so sorry for butting myself in... but I have bought Palimpsest, constantly rec it to friends, and spammed my friendlist and Facebook with your works quite a bit. Haha. :)

Anyway. My opinion: I would have been very offended... what is a "real" job, anyway? People who succumb entirely to that idea are just succumbing to that worker bee/zombie employee mentality, IMO. You love to write, and you create beautiful work when you do. You are doing something you love. You might not be rich from it, but it is how you get by.

Personally, I am trying to become self employed as an illustrator/web designer/comicbook artist. It's not easy, but I don't think I could personally handle a "typical" job. Even if I'm poor, as long as I can keep making my art and have my basic needs, there shouldn't be an issue...

I think the issue is I asked for help. If I had just started an online novel and not said "Oh, by the way, we're in trouble and I need some help," I can't imagine anything would be said.

Un-fucking-believable. One of the reasons I disabled comments when I hyped your post was that there's always concern trolls who decide to act like this, but I figured that it'd be a lot harder to do so directly to you than on other people's blogs.

I should never underestimate the power of human assholery.


I expected it, if only because I've seen so many people do this to Song. It's their issue, not the writers.

*shakes head at the nerve of some people, who can go get stuffed if they don't like it*

You DO NOT owe anyone this explanation. I wish I could send you money every time I'm feeling down, and pick up one of your books just to read a few pages to make me feel better. You give people a gift, and people are happy to give back. Those that don't get it, really, it's their problem, not yours.

The sheer audacity of these people. So, it's more grown up to go to a job everyday that you loath, with people you don't respect, and earn pauper's pay than to follow your dreams and do what brings joy in your life?

Fact is, following one's dream is not easy, let alone give you a chance to roll around in 100 dollar bills (it happens but it's rare). It's a risk worth taking because it is more fulfilling and sure as hell more COURAGEOUS.

On the job front, I HAD a job, then got laid off in January. I warned my brother (corporate man) and friends that NO ONE is safe in this cesspool of an economy. A few weeks later, friends who are computer programmers got laid off and my brother's seemingly untouchable corp had to cut 3,000 jobs.

Almost six months of sending out copious amounts of resumes and I've scored ONE interview. I can empathize all too well with what [info]justbeast is going through. What you are both going through.

Final thought -- we are ALL in this together. No one is immune. We have to stick together and help when we can, not send lecturey emails about what is considered grown-up and responsible. You ARE being responsible by asking for some assistance. And, might I say, asking for help is a VERY grown-up thing to do.

The mere fact that someone would have the gall to presume they know better than you about the state of your finances annoys me to no end, I swear. The internet: where everyone presumes you're an idiot who needs unsolicited advice on How It's Done.

Fuck 'em.

I was just saying to Dave that if we were ever starving and down to our last dime, we wouldn't have people come together to pay our rent like this, and there's a reason for that - you're an artist and you are constantly producing work that is undervalued and for which you are insufficiently compensated. This is why I never haggle with artists. They never get what they deserve anyway. So all that's happening right now is that people are trying to help make things a little bit more fair for you and the work you provide, not giving you any sort of a windfall.

And I /know/ that so many other people don't have the option of doing something like this. I know it's privilege, and a privilege.

IMO, you are incredibly kind to have written this post rather than giving those who would deign to judge you a well-earned rhetorical bitch slapping.

Not that you owed anyone this explanation, because you are giving good value for the money. However, FWIW it looks to me as though you have made very sound choices given the facts on the ground.

As for the tour...sheesh, hasn't anyone ever heard of ADVERTISING and PUBLICITY!

I'm looking forward to being able to do more than just my purchase of Palimpsest. Not because I'm kind, but because your work is a good investment in quality writing, and because your generosity in posting here on LJ inspires me to continue onward with my dreams.

Some people are just so mired in the "facts" that they resent anyone who can see more, and see more clearly.

Writing is work. Fuck these assholes.

fuck 'em all. i, for one, am thrilled by the amount of well-deserved attention you have received. you are doing real work. don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

It seems to me you've offered a good for a price. Why would people see this as begging?

You actually marketed Fairyland pretty well too, and as inoffensively as possible. What I see is someone going into business for herself, offering a service for possible remuneration, and asking fairly modestly for it.

A happy side effect is that it has brought out many generous feelings in people as well.

Good luck, and I look forward to Monday.

Catherine

Edited at 2009-06-13 02:11 am (UTC)

No matter what you do or how you do it, someone will always have a better idea about the choices you should make, and those with the least direct knowledge and experience relevant to said choices are the most vocal about pointing out Why You Are Wrong.

I don't know you and you don't know me, but I'd like to take a moment to say 'thank you' to you for being the sort of person who hears those rumblings and addresses them clearly, openly, and directly. Many creative people have, in the past, approached those situations with hostility and pique, and it always makes me think that all they're doing is feeding the idea that they're not making smart, well-reasoned choices. As I said, you don't know me, but for what it's worth I think 'offering to write a story people asked you to write, and hoping to make rent money doing it' is a pretty sensible course of action. It's the internet version of having a patron or patroness of the arts, someone of some means who supported artists because they believed in the necessity of beauty in the world. Paypal makes it possible for each of us to be one-hundredth of a de Medici to your Michelangelo. So I can only spare a hundred dollars a year or so to patronise the arts; the Internet allows me to band together with my hundred dollars and a hundred other people's hundred dollars, and make sure your rent gets paid so that there can be beauty in the world, and there being beauty in the world is certainly worth the cost of one beer a week to me.

Mind you, there will now be some people who insist that their hundred (or twenty, or three) dollars conveys ownership somehow, that if you get sick or fall behind they have the right to castigate you because they paid, darn it all, and now they expect you to work on their schedule. Should that happen, I refer you to the brilliance of Neil Gaiman, who said:

"George R.R. Martin is not your bitch."

You are not anyone's bitch, and a donation does not convey ownership or obligation in the face of extraordinary circumstance.

As to your wedding, I'll give you the advice I was given on the eve of my own, when nothing had arrived, confirmed, or gone right (it did all arrive and everything went according to schedule). The priestess performing it said, "Your worst case scenario is that tomorrow you will stand in the sunshine surrounded by people who love you, marrying the man you love. Everything else is just details." Even if your wedding is a backyard potluck with fresh-picked wildflowers, it will be a day of joy, of beauty, and of love. Everything else is just details.

Love,
Rowan

My thoughts exactly. In fact, may I quote your first paragraph? It strongly reflects what I have been dealing with as well. I will give you credit.

Cat, I'd like to link to this whole post if I may. And of course I will do what I can to help you!

Edited at 2009-06-13 03:39 am (UTC)

I'm amazed at how many people not only think they know best how total strangers ought to run their lives, but actually feel free to pass on their little pearls of wisdom. Miss Manners would not approve.

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