I have struggled for several days over whether I ought to say anything about the Prime Books conversation going on in various interweb-type places.
You all know I've worked with Prime. But how much of an author's relationship with a publisher--especially one she no longer publishes with--is fodder for public discourse? I don't know. I still don't know. But I don't want my silence to be conspicuous.
I have had positive experience with Prime (The Labyrinth, Yume no Hon) and negative experiences (pretty much everything else). Some of these were interpersonal issues that I do not feel comfortable getting into here, and that has been an incredibly hard decision. If you absolutely need to know, discuss it with me privately. I just can't bring myself to hash it out online. Some of the problems were professional issues (the fate of my poetry collections and my third novel). I published with Prime before anyone was getting advances, and while it often took forever and a year and a lot of upset emails, I did eventually get paid for everything I did for them. I know a lot of people who weren't so lucky--and the likelihood is you do too.
The fact is that most people in the community knew all of this about Prime a long time ago, and have been unwilling to burn bridges by speaking out. It's true that at any con where Prime is named, authors, mainly female ones, roll their eyes and share their grievances for hours on end. Because guess what? It's not enough to publish women. You have to value their work, and valuing their work means paying them and respecting them. So kudos to a very brave Michael Cisco, who was mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. That's what the internet is for, in a lot of ways. Balancing power.
We all want to work--it makes it hard to talk about any company in negative ways. That said.
Sean Wallace is the reason I am currently published by Bantam--he kindly sent the manuscript for The Orphan's Tales up when I submitted it to him. He regularly offers me work. He has been much less...abrasive/invasive in recent years. I owe him a lot.
On the other hand, none of my books received professional editing or copyediting, and the publicity was certainly in my hands, beyond sending out ARCs. But guys, that's every publisher, and I've always told y'all that. Prime is perhaps worse than most at the practice of slapping on a cover and hoping for the best, but it is a small press. On the third hand, The Grass-Cutting Sword was more or less abandoned before it ever came out, despite Sean specifically asking me to write it, and that was a hard pill for me to swallow. The details on that are another thing I think would cause more trouble than good were I to share them all. I'm not all that gossipy on the internet. On the fourth hand, I've heard through various channels a lot of gossip that the editor of Prime has engaged in behind my back, which has on occasion harmed my relationships with other female authors, and I'm not happy with that kind of high-school mentality. It's a small community, shit gets around, and it has hurt to hear the things I've heard. But I cannot control another person's behavior.
Here's the thing. If you don't like the way a publisher works, don't work for them. Don't be so desperate for publication that you will put up with anything. None of us are cattle, we don't deserve to be prodded and shocked and ultimately whacked on the head. You get treated the way you allow yourself to be treated. Prime is not the only publisher in the world, and if you don't like it, quit. Publication in and of itself is not worth the misery of working with people you do not believe are dealing with you ethically, fairly, professionally, or whathaveyou. The reason publishers--and there are many worse than Prime--get away with shit is because we are all so desperate we don't call them out.
My Labyrinth novel contract before I signed with Prime, my first one, with a realist small press in San Diego, turned out to be predicated upon sleeping with the editor. Guess what? Publication wasn't worth it. They are not the only ones with power.
Don't forget that you as the author do control the means of production, and you have the ability to take your work elsewhere. Prime doesn't pay so much or provide so much high profile publicity that you need to stick around like it's a company town and you spent your last dime on moldy bread.
This goes for any publisher: they are not the only game in town, and if you don't like the way the game is being played, take your ball and go find another team.
Ultimately, that's what I did.
- It's About Power
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And I'm not just fannishly squeeing or blowing smoke up your ass here. I'm a writer, too, and I've read an awful lot of completely craptastic fantasy novels. In fact, one such horrific, poorly edited, clunky, predictably plotted, wooden-charactered novel was what gave me the cosmic head-thwack I needed to pursue becoming a writer in the first place.
I'm glad to know who you are now--don't worry, I promise I won't stalk you. :-)
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You're also right about the problem that we let vermin like Wallace get away with this. We've always let bad publishers get away with this, and every time someone tries to warn us that a publisher is unethical or blatantly lawbreaking, any number of us go running, like teenage girls to a serial killer, on the idea that "well, he won't do that to me." In Prime's case, nobody called him on his tactics when he practically signed up half of Australia on contracts that he simply couldn't handle. Nobody called him when he dropped everything to edit both Clarkesworld and Fantasy. Nobody called him when he spent more time preening for convention photos and pitching his Fantasy featurette on "Hot Genre Editors I'd Like To Pork" than on fulfilling his contractual obligations. Most of all, he continues with his "Well, at least I'm trying" non-apology apologies, and yet he continues to be treated as if he's a respectable editor by the rest of the skiffy community. Considering how long everyone put up with Kristine Kathryn Rusch's delaying publication of Pulphouse in order to focus on other shiny objects that caught her attention that morning, as well as rationalizing her publishing her own goddamn stories in nearly every issue of F&SF while she was editor, I'm not surprised.
Me, I'm going further than just deciding that "Friends don't let friends do Prime." I realize that I wasn't much of a commodity even when I was still writing, but the next person who comes at me with anything approximating an offer for publication is getting punched in the heart. I've already sold off my remaining writing portfolio to get it the fuck out of my life, and I shut down my other blog because I was already so sick and tired of idiots telling me "I know you'd rather get sodomized by the Pope than write again, but you really need to go back to it." I'm done. (And I know some smartass will inevitably pipe up and tell me that s/he won't touch me for the latest Absolutely Fabulous/Farscape slashfic anthology s/he's putting together. All I can say is "Pleeeeeeaaaaase, Brer Fox, don't throw me in that briar patch!")
2008-07-28 07:07 pm (UTC)
Had no idea about the Hot Genre Editors thing, but it has always troubled me that he is acknowledged as a feminist ally in public despite his well-known behavior in private.
2008-07-28 08:50 pm (UTC)
As for the "Hot Editors" piece, he announced in 2006 that he was putting a new feature in Fantasy dedicated to new editors in the genre, including pictures. After seeing the pictures, that's when I nicknamed it as such, and that's when I realized that I was never going to see either book. He couldn't give me an honest release date, and he was pissing off people who'd come to him at Readercon and World Fantasy and ask if they could pre-order copies, but he could dedicate his time to near-cheesecake photo shoots of interns who'd never have given him the time of day if he wasn't a book and magazine publisher.
2008-07-28 07:02 pm (UTC)
Preach it. I learned this the hard way via another small press which shall go unnamed in this space. I understand the desperation to see yourself in print, but there ARE things that aren't worth tolerating. There ARE offers that cost too much to accept.
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I heard a little of what you went through from a friend when I was struggling with my own Prime stuff, and it helped me cement the decision to get myself somewhere else.
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But that makes a lot of sense, I'm sure you get the same issues with record labels.
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2008-07-28 09:24 pm (UTC)
The whole situation with that book makes me sick, and it's the main reason I won't work with them again--they kill my books.
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2008-07-28 10:49 pm (UTC)
I am so sorry that you've had such a bad time at Prime. Thank you for sharing your story; I'm sure it wasn't easy.
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2008-07-29 12:25 pm (UTC)
Oh that's terrible...are there still copies out and about? I keep meaning to buy one, but I found Prime's website and catalogue a bit erm, confusing to use.
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I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that the same kinds of shenanigans can happen in publishing too. Anytime you have a power relationship, there's the chance for its abuse.
Thanks for sharing the story -- the wise ones will learn from those who've walked the path before.
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I would also like to add that your prose is resplendent.
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You have the ability to take your new work elsewhere. But getting the rights to an existing work back from its publisher can be difficult or impossible.
2008-08-01 06:27 pm (UTC)